I learned a lot about the mortgage process when I got the mortgage on the house I just bought. Some of it was stuff that you could pick up just about anywhere, and some of it I had to really get crafty about. Here is a bunch of information that would be useful to have when searching for a mortgage:
- There are several places you can go to get a mortgage. You can go to a retail bank and ask about their mortgage products (Bank of America is an example). You can go to a mortgage broker and ask them to help you find a mortgage through a wholesale mortgage dealer (Spruce Mortgage in VT is a broker, and Northeast Home Loan in VT is a wholesaler). You could go to a credit union and ask them about their mortgage products.
- Forget about the interest rate and the APR. All you should care about is whether the monthly payment, including taxes, insurance, PMI, utilities, etc is affordable. Once you have figured out what the payment you can afford is, then work on getting the rate lower. A good rule of thumb is that $200,000 will cost about $1200 a month (fixed rate, 30 year mortgage) when interest rates are around 6%. Now, add on taxes, insurance, PMI, etc. and your payments will easily be about $1800 a month. And that is before utilities!
- Know how the mortgage pricing structure works! Interest rate is not the full story! There are actually two interest rates: a base rate and a markup rate — these add up to the “market rate” (which is what you can see tracked at Freddie Mac’s Weekly Survey) the lenders will quote you.
- The base rate is always lower than what the lenders quote you as “the rate”. This is the rate they expect to earn on the loan. This is basically determined by the market and the efficiencies at the lender, so is probably non-negotiable.
- The markup rate is the difference between the base rate and the “market rate”. A good chunk of this number can be negotiated!
- By law, mortgage brokers MUST disclose what their markup rate is to you — but they will do everything they can to not draw attention to it, and emphasize that you don’t have to worry about it because you are not paying it. They have fancy words for it like “Yield Spread Premium (YSP)” or “Spread”. It is a good idea to talk to a mortgage broker, even if you never plan to borrow from one, because knowing the YSP is a tool for negotiation. My experience is that the YSP is somewhere between 1 and 1.5% on top of the base rate. (so if a broker says the rate is 6%, then the rate they are actually seeing is somewhere between 4.5 and 5%) You do not pay the broker the YSP, the lender pays it to the broker as a reward. The reward is due to the fact that you are now paying 6% interest instead of 4.5%.
- There are some mortgage brokers who will not screw around with the YSP, they actually tell you all information, including the base rates they are actually seeing. These guys are called “Upfront Mortgage Brokers” and if you are lucky enough to find one, this might be your best bet.
- The retail banks have something similar to YSP, but they do not disclose it to you. It may be harder to negotiate with them as a result. Having a ballpark idea of what the equivalent of YSP is would definitely be useful.
- I had good luck with asking the broker to pay a bunch of the lender’s fees from their YSP. This works like this: Part of your closing costs are fees. There is a lender’s application fee, underwriting fee, administrative fee, etc. There are also broker’s application, administrative, etc fees. The broker is going to pocket the YSP, so you might as well ask them to work for it. Tell the broker that you don’t want to pay any broker’s fees whatsoever, seeing as they are getting that big YSP check. Then, say that you think the YSP is too big, and that you would be more comfortable if they would pay the lenders fees, too. Your good faith estimate will give you an idea of what fees there are, and you should try to negotiate for the broker to pay as many of them as possible. The important thing to keep in mind is that 1-1.5% of your loan is a big number. A few hundred dollars in fees is not going to be a big deal to the broker.